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Re: new 2.0 release

• 2023/2/18 19:49:37
• skenow

Perhaps we also include a warning in the admin panel for the upcoming deactivation of UA and instructions on how to switch their ImpressCMS site once they have made the switch with Google.

Re: new 2.0 release

• 2023/2/18 19:46:42
• skenow

I was also thinking this release should address Google Analytics 4 over Universal Analytics - UA will stop working/reporting in 4 months (July 1).

This is kind of tricky, since we can't determine if a site has been converted, or if the new GA4 property tag has been created. Going through this for myself, the ID is different, so both the code and the ID need to be updated for a site.

I see you have implemented this as a plugin on this site, @fiammybe, and removed the section cf the core code that inserts the ga snippet into every page. Maybe we do that for both options - create preload plugins and have the administrator activate the one they use. Assume they are using UA (since that is what the core is injecting) and move that to preloads with the upgrade. Provide an alternative for GA4.

Re: new 2.0 release

• 2023/2/18 19:35:37
• skenow

My list:

Required -

• New install completes successfully on PHP 7+
• Works without error at minimum version - PHP 7.x
• Works (may have warnings) on PHP 8.x. PHP 8.0 at a minimum
• Module updates work
• Module installs work
• Able to save preferences
• Editors work
• User registration, profile updates, group memberships work
• Upgrade works from previous versions (will need clear steps for PHP version change)
• Other prerequisites clearly defined for what needs to be changed in configuration and settings (using PDO, for example)

Recommended -

• How to determine if your modules are compatible - and a list of modules we've tested

Things we can't verify -

• If a site is using a custom block or custom tag with PHP content, we can't validate it will work on PHP 7+
• The same is true of extra plugins and preloads not distributed with the core

Re: New designation for our old 2.0 branch

• 2023/2/15 2:41:27
• fiammybe

That sounds like a great OpenAI idea. Didn't they have a generator for this type of images? Show me my photo how i'd look like captain picard?

I'll have a look, sounds like a fun project.

Re: new 2.0 release

• 2023/2/13 2:52:04
• fiammybe

Of course, I forgot that valentine's day is more of less the black Friday for the flower business.

I will update the estimated date on the Github milestone.

Just to make sure, what are precisely the situations to test? Php 7.0 until php 8.0?

Upgrade from 1.4.4?

Re: A new milestone has been reached!

• 2023/2/12 12:43:25
• skenow

And that is just on GitHub. That doesn't count what was done on SourceForge and Assembla,

Re: new 2.0 release

• 2023/2/12 12:06:10
• skenow

I have limited time in the next few days for much of anything besides flowers. We are at a point to start the final testing and validation to move us on to the final release, though.

Re: New designation for our old 2.0 branch

• 2023/2/12 11:55:59
• skenow

Could also choose from the 3 characters of The Original Series that made appearances on TNG: Spock, McCoy, Scottie. Growing up, I thought Spock was the best.

Re: New designation for our old 2.0 branch

• 2023/2/12 3:05:30
• fiammybe

I guess the whole discussion will be : who wants to be Data?

new 2.0 release

• 2023/2/12 2:39:16
• fiammybe

Hi,

Valentine's day is coming around the corner, and although I don't see myself as a flying cupid that shoots arrows everywhere, it is a special day to perhaps latch onto for the 2.0 release.

When I look in Github for the new 2.0 milestone, there are still some things to be verified, next to the discussion about the csstidy ticket. I estimate we might be ready to release a quick RC on monday, just to get the scope finalised and do some more non-regression tests. And after that release on tuesday, just in time for Valentine's Day - Because we love our users so much

Would that be a reasonable (if short) timeline?

Re: Updates and upgrades for 2.0

• 2023/2/12 2:33:32
• fiammybe

I hadn't considered all those points when going for the news module. At the time, Madfish was still actively developing his modules, and his modules were based on the last version of IPF, so it seemed like a given to integrate modules that were built on the most recent best practices.

Re: A new milestone has been reached!

• 2023/2/12 2:30:41
• fiammybe

That is a momentous occasion! Thank you for putting this into the spotlight.

With the new 2.0 coming around the corner and also some movement in our newly-minted ImpressTNG branch, that number of PRs is certainly going to rise even more!

A new milestone has been reached!

• 2023/2/11 10:11:57
• skenow

Over the years, we have used different version control repositories, our current one being GitHub. A recent merge of a pull request has pushed us to 1,000 pull requests that have been merged into our core - https://github.com/ImpressCMS/impresscms/pulls

Thanks for all the efforts that have gone into bringing us this far!

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Re: New designation for our old 2.0 branch

• 2023/2/11 7:33:10
• skenow

I like it! Maybe we should all take on a character from the series and make that our avatar.

Re: Updates and upgrades for 2.0

• 2023/2/6 21:01:36
• skenow

I think it's OK that we have more than one option for a type of module, that's been part of our heritage and what fuels the OSS community. There have always been multiple options for various types of content - news, blogs, galleries, downloads, links, calendars. The same is true in other environments, too - WordPress, Drupal, XOOPS.

The choices are also available in other markets - Microsoft Office (Word, Excel, PowerPoint), or Google Apps (Docs, Sheets, Slides)? Or, LibreOffice? Zoom, Teams, or Google Meet?

For me, it is the least amount of resistance to move forward. News from InstantZero is much more mature, robust, and feature rich than any other news module available. It does things - and I use them - that no other similar module does. The news module we use here is based on IPF and needs another module to create and manage categories (a good thing, actually, from a site management perspective). So does imBlogging - but it uses a different category/tag module. SmartSection had even more features - allowing a preview of an article, but viewing the entire article required another level of authentication, if you chose to do that. I'm not going to wait until one module can do it all. I don't think one module should do it all.

We can't create and support all the variations webmasters will demand, nor should we have to. That is why the marketplace exists.

The key at this point - what do we do with the core, and how does that affect the marketplace? Once I know what to aim for in module compatibility, I know what to do with my sites and the modules they use.

New designation for our old 2.0 branch

• 2023/2/6 14:29:52
• fiammybe

Hi, we arrived at the situation that our new branch number (2.0) was being overtaken by the needs of the legacy version. That is a common pitfall with long-winding releases, quite common actually.

The solution is to not give your next version a number, simple as that That way, your version number cannot be taken by the legacy codebase.

I'm a sci-fi aficionado (sometimes described as 'geek') so I would propose "ImpressTNG" as designation for our next major version. ImpressCMS - The Next Generation (cue Star Trek The Next Generation theme song). What do you think? Other proposals certainly welcome. Let's see what we can come up with

Curious about Github Codespaces

• 2023/2/6 14:11:22
• fiammybe

Hi, I'm curious if some of you have experience with Github Codespaces. I tried some similar services some years ago but they were very clunky, more or less a remote desktop via your browser to a virtualised pc.

The user experience wasn't great, and the features were severely limited. I don't know if all this has improved enough for me to look into using Github Codespaces as an alternative to a local IDE.

For some codebases, my laptop (a nice but slightly out-of-date Surface Book 2 with only 8GB of RAM) is starting to get limited by it's RAM, but adding RAM is no option, I'd have to replace the entire laptop. For the price of a new laptop, I could work many hours on Github Codespaces

Curious if you have experience with this.

Re: Updates and upgrades for 2.0

• 2023/2/6 14:02:41
• fiammybe

Totally agree. I've been going through some problematic libraries for PHP 8.0 and I'm updating them one by one. But I don't know if @skenow wants to wait for all those upgrades before launching the new 2.0 release into the wild.

I still need to clean up PR #1397  before it can be merged. That's going to be done right after.

Re: Updates and upgrades for 2.0

• 2023/2/6 2:00:14
• MekDrop

I think right now is not a good time to merge these two modules. They are written in different code styles - one is IPF another not. Right now these modules are needed just for testing. Faster icms release is better.

Re: Updates and upgrades for 2.0

• 2023/2/4 9:33:49
• skenow

I have sites where I use both, and could probably merge them into a single module with some thought to the navigation changes. One for reporting events and activities, the other more for conversation, ideas, and opinions.

The news module I've been using is the one from InstantZero and it has the ability to manage submit, approve, and viewing based on groups and topic (category). It also has the ability to expire articles and move them to the 'archive', which I like. That's a lot to try and build into another module, along with bringing it up to the latest ImpressCMS, PHP, and MySQL versions. I'm open to it, though.