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Re: Searching on ImpressCMS, I found some interesting links.

• 2008/11/20 0:57:39
• Tom

Perhaps we should contact people like Oliver Meyer for permissions to re-use the "How To Install ImpressCMS 1.0 Final On Debian Etch" article within our Wiki or for the community website.

Articles like this are valuable for end users and can do a world of good!

Re: How did I arrive here 2.0?

• 2008/11/19 4:02:50
• Tom

What other systems do you still use now?

I mainly use WordPress & WordPress MU, although I have other installs on Joomla & Drupal, I also run some commercial stuff too.

Why do you use those others and what do they offer which you'd like to see in ImpressCMS?

Well I keep this about WP for now to keep it simple.

I use WordPress because it's a very nice blogging platform, it has good use of URLS out of the box, a large community, many plugins doing thing things you could only dream about modules doing, a ton of free designs to either use or inspired by. They use Zoning for blocks rather than just static positions.

WordPress MU is everything great about Word Press but allowing people to have their own blogs, their own websites on your domain. Not only a fantastic resource for people but an excellent marketing tool.

I've still not yet upgraded my WP to the latest WP but I understand the gap between that and MU is much more now. I guess I'll find out soon enough when I get the chance to upgrade.

What 5 strengths are most important to you when choosing system

Community - To feel at home with.

Support - To know your safe when you need it

Stability - To know there is a future and security is taken seriously - stable code and stable project.

Choice - Choice modules, themes, and ways a site can work.

Freedom - To not be tied in, stuck in a corner and to be able to voice my opinion and be listened to in addition to being able to contribute my own

Some may think community and support are one in the same but I don't see it that way, you can have a great community of people with little support. I find ImpressCMS has a good balance of both.

Re: How did I arrive here 2.0?

• 2008/11/19 3:45:55
• Tom

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:lmao:

Well lets add some other questions to the equation!

What other systems do you still use now?

Why do you use those others and what do they offer which you'd like to see in ImpressCMS?

What 5 strengths are most important to you when choosing system

Re: How did I arrive here 2.0?

• 2008/11/18 19:32:13
• JMorris

now, now... don't let me and Mr Tom kill the thread. Let's hear some more stories! It's quite fascinating hearing people's paths as it gives you a better understanding of what they've been exposed to.

Re: How did I arrive here 2.0?

• 2008/11/17 20:17:09
• Tom

I'm a wise friend, why not quote my words:

Ambition is a poor excuse for not having enough sense to be lazy.

Re: How did I arrive here 2.0?

• 2008/11/17 19:36:48
• JMorris

Sleep deprivation and a gallon of coffee. It's a beautiful thing.

Now that I've twisted somebody's arm into recovering my last post on this topic...

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Not counting CMS hacks to bulletin boards, PHP-Nuke. I used Nuke prior to the fork that ended up becoming XOOPS. After many issues with Nuke and having my site hacked, I moved to XOOPS as I felt it was a better product.

If you're talking all the way back to the beginning, I started out with phpBB in early 2001.

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What haven't I checked would be an easier question to answer. If it's on http://opensourcecms.com/ I've probably tried it. I've gone even further and tested and/or used many of the more popular systems.

To date, I've done the most with Wordpress and XOOPS. By far, I built more sites and did more coding for XOOPS.

Why I chose iCMS? Let's just say that is is nearer and dearer to my heart than XOOPS or any other system.

To be more specific, iCMS is headed in a direction that is more inline with my own goals and needs.

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I pretty much just did that above, but to clarify...

phpBB (2001-2002) -> PHPNuke (2002-2003) -> XOOPS (late 2003-2007) -> WP & iCMS (2007 - Present)

Edit: Just found my first post on x. Man, I lurked for a loooong time!

On a more personal note, nearly all of my close, personal friends are here. While I still maintained some contact while not being involved in this project, it wasn't the same. Here, I feel a since of community I have not felt anywhere else and it is that "feeling" I want to be involved in nurturing.

As one of my very good friends said today, we need to focus on building a community experience, not just a community management system.

Wise words from a wise friend.

Re: How did I arrive here 2.0?

• 2008/11/17 19:27:36
• Tom

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You been smoking something dodgy today?

You sure are in a funny mood! lol

:lmao:

Re: How did I arrive here 2.0?

• 2008/11/17 19:15:54
• JMorris

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I clicked on the little blue planet with the cute little red fox on it. In the thing called the "address bar", I typed community.impresscms.org then pressed the "ENTER" key. Then, out of nowhere, this beautiful "web page" showed up in front of me like "magic".

Re: How did I arrive here 2.0?

• 2008/11/17 17:30:12
• Tom

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The first would have been PHPNuke I think, I'm sure there was another before but it was so long ago I can't remember.

Prior to Nuke, in the mid 1990's I started using "Front Page", although I'm not sure it was called that when I started with it. I then moved on to HTML and later CSS although from my current work non of that would be evident, lol. I guess over the years things just kept happening in real life that stopped me learning everything I wanted to.

With so many from Nuke originally I'm surprised our paths didn't cross before XOOPS.

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I'm not entirely sure in all honesty, perhaps at the time it was probably one of the most popular in searches for 'content manager'.

I never really liked how it did certain things and so looked for other options.

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Well as I said, I wasn't overly happy with PHPNuke for what ever which slips my mind now, so I searched for a new options and then joined XOOPS in 2002.

If my memory serves me right that was about the same time that a hosting company we used went bust and unreachable, our sites went off line and they wouldn't respond to give us our most current data.

I then went to XOOPS, I nearly went of with E-XOOPS (now RunCMS) but ultimately stayed because I once believed in the product back then.

Over the years I've worked with many other systems including WordPress, Mambo, Joomla, Drupal, XOOPSCube, PHPBB, IPB, PostNuke, Media Wiki, 4Images (I believe also a module for XOOPS once), Moodle (also a module for XOOPS once), Coppermine and the list could go on.

I occasionally use another system if it suits the need of a given project at that time.

But no matter what I always found myself loyal to XOOPS. I was then working closely with JMorris last year over at XOOPS we made some tough choices and long hours to get the CMS back on track but then for reasons irrelevant to this thread we decided enough was enough and so moved on.

Most of the people that built and inspired XOOPS over the years are here at ImpressCMS, so although disheartening after all those years, we still have each other as a community but with a slightly different name, ImpressCMS.

We're more like a family here now, and I feel ImpressCMS has brought a lot of people much closer together.

Re: How did I arrive here 2.0?

• 2008/11/17 16:50:25
• skenow

What was the first CMS you used?

My first sites were not CMS sites. Static HTML for my personal sites as I got my feet wet. I was fairly heavy into genealogy, which where I got my first introduction to phpGedView - a php-driven application for sharing and editing family tree information. I wanted more on my site, so I integrated it with the HTML and then started learning of others that had made PGV work in phpnuke.

I tried a bunch of the nukes, but didn't really find them easy to use or to fit my needs. I had developed a php-driven frontend for my then-employer's helpdesk software, but soon saw the benefits of having a portal for all our documentation and utilities. Then, someone at PGV started talking about XOOPS - then on version 2.0.7. I soon found what I was looking for and have been around since then. I created my account at XOOPS on 17 November 2004 = 4 years ago, today!

Why this? Why not others? What others did you check?

As I mentioned, I tried various versions of nuke before settling on XOOPS. Security had a lot to do with it - there was a lot of attention being paid to having a secure platform at X, and that was important, especially since I was dealing with personal information at my family site, and business information at work. Along the way, I've also checked on Mambo, Joomla, Drupal, Modx - all adequate, but with different learning curves and appropriate for specific needs, just not mine.

Describe your path from this CMS to iCMS. When did you move on, and why?

I occasionally posted at XOOPS in my early years, but really started to get involved in late 2006 - early 2007. There was a lot of 'discussion' over the future of the cms and I issued the 30-day challenge. My own contribution from that was Starting a New XOOPS Site, which is #4 in all-time views in the forums.

From there, I started working on reviving XOOPSDocs, starting XOOPSWiki and XOOPSInfo. Skipping ahead.....that didn't fit with the direction of the new XOOPS, but I formed a lot of great connections with the group now at the core of ImpressCMS. So, just about this time last year, we officially began making plans for a new CMS project and here we are!

I still bridge between there and here, but mostly because of modules I maintain - pgvxoops and (now) wiwimod.

Re: How did I arrive here 2.0?

• 2008/11/17 11:20:47
• wuddel

1 - What was the first CMS you used?
XOOPS 2.0

2 - Why this? Why not others? What others did you check?
"First time, first love" (from the coca-cola song 1990) My first cms ever was Xoops 2.0.x I searched for a "easy" cms and found the great german community myxoops.org. Thats it.

3 - Describe your path from this CMS to iCMS. When did you move on, and why?
Xoops 2.0.13 -> every update to Xoops 2.2.6 -> ICMS 1.x
I moved because xoops standing to long at the same point.

Re: How did I arrive here?

• 2008/11/17 10:35:33
• seth_sd

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PHPNuke was the first CMS I came across while on the hunt for an Open Source something or other to implement a corporate portal for the job I had at the time. I really didn't know what a CMS was but soon discovered that Nuke was unworkable for me. I found Mambo and then XOOPS 2.0.7 I believe.

XOOPS just made sense to me in that installing a module was much like installing an application in your OS. The added functionality was clearly defined from the core and I could figure it out easily. The permission system was very simple and functional. Because this was a corporate setting it was a must have.

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Have tried many of the most popular CMS's but iCMS has such an active development community and the people here seam to be on the same page as myself.

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I had been a lurker in the XOOPS community for most of my XOOPS career. I had been away from the site all together and when I began visiting again there was the usual turmoil. There was discussion of getting a restructuring team together and sorting through the issues. I offered to join and through this process of trying to get the project back on it's feet it became clear to me that I was in agreement with the same folks time and time again.

As it became clear that those were the folks moving in the direction of iCMS, it also became clear that it was the direction I was going to head.

That has been the right decision as is evidenced by the accomplishments of this team in such a short period of time. A fresh start was what was needed and has definitely worked out for the best.

Re: How did I arrive here 2.0?

• 2008/11/17 10:14:52
• davidl2

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Coranto.

I was working on a technical site as a writer - and we used this as the back-end code base.

I was later recommended to Xoops 2.0.6 by my hosting provider.

(I forgave him for this later)

Moved away from xoops after Skalpa's departure

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Drupal is quite nice, Jamoola is unweildy - ImpressCMS met my needs better.

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xoops 2.0.16 -> ImpressCMS 1.0

How did I arrive here 2.0?

• 2008/11/17 10:08:14
• nachenko

Health and republic.

I'm incubating a article/formal proposal/essay/something worth considering for the community, and I'm at the idea collecting level.

You know, that level many people don't get out of in years.

But I'll try to get out and bring something. Promised.

Please everyone spend some time and do this for me, for the whole community an exercise of introspection. please reply for me, and for the community, these questions:

1 - What was the first CMS you used?

2 - Why this? Why not others? What others did you check?

3 - Describe your path from this CMS to iCMS. When did you move on, and why?

Re: How did I arrive here?

• 2008/11/17 6:57:29
• davidl2

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Coranto.

I was working on a technical site as a writer - and we used this as the back-end code base.

I was later recommended to Xoops 2.0.6 by my hosting provider.

(I forgave him for this later)

Moved away from xoops after Skalpa's departure

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Drupal is quite nice, Jamoola is unweildy - ImpressCMS met my needs better.

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xoops 2.0.16 -> ImpressCMS 1.0

Re: How did I arrive here?

• 2008/11/17 4:05:19
• debianus

1.- I did not knew a word about CMS, but I wanted make a page for a non-profit association (it was Dec-2004). I was looking and testing systems and finally, choosed Xoops.

2.- Why Xoops? In 2004 seemed that Nuke systems were the past. Everybody talked about Mambo, Drupal, Xaraya, and Xoops was a good system too. Drupal and Xaraya were too much difficult for me and Xoops had an easy install script, easy administration, and easy content management. It had its own forum module (Mambo not) and all modules that I needed. Althought: It has an Spanish support page and a very active and awesome community in xoops.org.

3.- From Xoops to iCMS: In 2006-2007 I started translating some modules to Spanish, giving support in Spanish local site, becomed co-admin (with Riosoft) of eÑe project (dev.xoop.sorg) and in 2007 was envolved in Xoops Docs and Comm Team, working in xoopswiki, xoopsinfo and xoopsaddons. In those times I knew closed a lot of very good people (all are here now) and worked happily.
But since Sep 2007, we had not future on Xoops; when I knew about iCMS and (over all) its people involved, I had not doubt.
The most important in a project is not the code, is the people, the Community...and here there are a lot of wonderful people.

Re: How did I arrive here?

• 2008/11/17 1:13:41
• Madfish

It's not in anyone's interests to revive the old disuptes. Lets just agree that a lot of people disagree on various things, and leave it at that. Both projects are happier places and have made significant progress after the fork. And many people still use both!

Back to the topic at hand?

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And mine too.

Re: How did I arrive here?

• 2008/11/17 0:57:21
• nachenko

I think I never asked for this, but Mamba managed to put this thread out of the scope. Can someone delete all posts after Mamba, including this?

Re: How did I arrive here?

• 2008/11/17 0:12:11
• Will

Removed out of respect for Nachenko.

Re: How did I arrive here?

• 2008/11/16 22:55:55
• mamba

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Will, just to set the record straight: it was YOU who changed the signature, as you admit in your email to me on 3/31/2008 at 9:50 AM:
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I forwarded your email back to you so you have it for your records, as we need to keep the facts straight here.

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And I salute you for that! Posting stuff like this on the OpenSourceSCM Website under XOOPS where you call us fascists and say:
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was definitely not the nicest thing to do.

Will, while we disagree on many things, I hope, we can agree that with XOOPS 2.3.1 released, rumors about XOOPS death and about leaving "half the populous out in the cold" were highly exaggerated