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2009/12/4 20:48:26
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Multi Oledrion Install... Many Clones On One Site?

Will oledrion conflict with itself if cloned and installed a lot of times?

Scenario:

One website with O cloned 4 times...

hp
then
toshiba
then
dell
then
gateway

So if O is installed 4 different times with 4 different names will every module still work independent of the other? Or will this fail miserably?

Thanks for your time...


2009/12/5 8:59:45
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Re: Multi Oledrion Install... Many Clones On One Site?

you can just use categories and mod rewrite.

/del -> cat1
/toshiba -> cat2


2009/12/5 9:13:11
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Re: Multi Oledrion Install... Many Clones On One Site?

No... project requires all the different manufactures to be separate. Thus being able to make payment to different paypal/merchants accounts. Not to mention the inventory/tracking/taxes nightmare it would produce by combining all the different business into one cart. They must be separate carts from each other and able to maintain there own customer purchases/amount/statics/shipping/ect...

I have never looked at a shopping cart quite this way before. I must admit this is a totally different idea. Multi cart install with totally different business installed on one site sounds very interesting but will it work?

I just wonder what else needs to be done beside cloning to keep all the different modules separate but under the same roof so to speak.

Hope that makes sense...


2009/12/5 9:15:36
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Re: Multi Oledrion Install... Many Clones On One Site?

This also opens up another can of worms! SSL Certs... Could you run multistores off one cert or would you need multicerts as well?

lol is multicerts even a word?


2009/12/5 9:32:56
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Re: Multi Oledrion Install... Many Clones On One Site?

http://www.iscripts.com/multicart/

I found this cart software... Seems to do what I want but I would lose all the cms features I need for social networking...

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iScripts MultiCart - is a unique shopping cart software that can help you create ecommerce marketplace with multiple sellers in the backend. Each seller has their own administrative area to manage their own products, orders, and shipments. Buyers will be able to buy from one seller or multiple sellers at a time. It has a powerful administrative area to manage all aspects of the site like sellers, products, payments, affiliates, and buyers. You as the site owner make money from sale of your products or commission from other sellers



2009/12/5 9:40:55
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Re: Multi Oledrion Install... Many Clones On One Site?

We really don't know if olderion will have issues in a cloned environment. We will just have to wait until 1.2 is out and we all focus in on the modules.

Once we get olderion acceptable for use withing ICMS - we can look at its multis-tore capabilities.

I have looked all over for a multi-store (or mall) script - and they all suck unless you wanna drop 10 grand.


2009/12/5 20:42:02
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Re: Multi Oledrion Install... Many Clones On One Site?

Alright - it took a bit of work - but I have tested oledrion cloned 13 times on the same site. Took some work to get everything bug free - but it all seems to be doing fine now.

Friggin huge though! gonna start in on trimming it down.


2009/12/5 22:45:04
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Re: Multi Oledrion Install... Many Clones On One Site?

one annoying bug I ran into is the preferences for the module - where the allowed mimetypes are defined. They are required to be input - 1 per line... well - the editor converts each new line to a <br /> which causes the mimetypes to no longer work.

Not sure what happened in the editor department since RC1 but yikes.

(this is in the latest trunk btw)

Otherwise - all the modules work great. Ugly as sin - but work great.

Now if we can just get the module to use the core version of tcpdf it will knock the size of the module from 22Mbs down to 4Mbs.


2009/12/6 4:47:17
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Re: Multi Oledrion Install... Many Clones On One Site?

How does the site run with all those installed? Could you notice a performance problem? This is going to sound crazy but I need to install O 25 times.


2009/12/6 6:31:46
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Re: Multi Oledrion Install... Many Clones On One Site?

no performance issues at 13 - but these clones do not include any products... i only put a single product up.

at 13 clones I am hitting 81db quesries on the index of the site - that is without any blocks from the modules - just the welcome webmaster/admin menu/main menu/themes/search blocks.

having that many clones isn't so much a issue of size, as much as it would be an issue of db queries. If you were smart and conscious of your queries you could pull it off.

the pdf catalogs are a really nice feature - but if you were to write a simple script that hit all the databases at once and transferred your results to the core pdf library - then deleted the pdf libraries that come with the module you would save a lot of room.

25 x 22mb = 550Mb
25 x 4mb = 100mb

that is a pretty significant decrease.


2009/12/6 6:43:29
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Re: Multi Oledrion Install... Many Clones On One Site?

I am having some memory issues on the server this morning. I deleted a pretty big site so I could install 1.2.rc2.

I had to dump the tmp directory 10 times before I could delete the whole site.

Now everything is cleaned up I am having problems running unzip it fails.


2009/12/6 6:52:02
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Re: Multi Oledrion Install... Many Clones On One Site?

I highly doubt you are having memory issues on the server.

1.5Gb guaranteed 3Gb burst.


2009/12/6 14:38:12
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Re: Multi Oledrion Install... Many Clones On One Site?

hi!

as far as i know oledrion can allready be shrinked down easily by
deleting the huge pdf part. I am not sure if this is the only thing,
so better not delete it right away but maybe have a look here for a working small(3,27Mb Archive) version.(tested it with icms112final and 1 SSL Cert for everything inside the httpsdocs, so i think oledrion clones should work too. If different Subdomains should be used by a single Certificate, the hoster/registrar must support wildcard* SLL certificates i think.)

hope this helps somehow

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2009/12/6 15:07:16
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Re: Multi Oledrion Install... Many Clones On One Site?

That's excellent work - whoever made the reduction - although it seems to be based on a slightly older version of the module. So it could do with being updated for 2.31


2009/12/6 17:24:55
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Re: Multi Oledrion Install... Many Clones On One Site?

Yes, that is exactly what I was talking about doing. I sure am glad I saw something shiny and got distracted long enough for you to post it up.

I am happy removing a large portion of the fonts - though I think an ideal solution would be to use the pdf library already in the core.


2009/12/7 9:40:29
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Re: Multi Oledrion Install... Many Clones On One Site?

Yes, an upgrade is no problem.
I read the changelog and i guess there shouldn't be much more
to do than adding some language variables maybe.
In this small version, the Mimetype "Bug" should be away since
the inpuit field type is changed.

Main advantage of 2.3x is that it is open for other Plugins like different Paying Gateways i think. Well, that was one of the last things I read on the Instant-Zero Site.
I hope everything works out good for Herve.

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2009/12/7 10:20:41
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Re: Multi Oledrion Install... Many Clones On One Site?

63RD - did you do the update of the Shop module?

Would you be willing to help with this on the main SVN?


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