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2007/12/20 6:53:02
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Many thanks Snow - the multimenu addition will be useful for later on - but it's been a headache to configure before

Incidently - have you tried to use the horizontal menu option in Mastop? If you get chance - try this as it's quite nice.


2007/12/21 0:11:45
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I've like nearly finished I think. I am attaching here the theme. It may present bugs in mainly IE6.

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Thanks I'll take a look at it, as I haven't seen the mastop modules yet. I've only used multimenu for almost every site I've built.


Edited by davidl2 on 2008/1/8 20:57:55
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2007/12/21 1:25:36
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It works well in firefox

Remember anyone - the theme's not for public use - but if you can help - that'd be great!


2007/12/21 2:46:28
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Done some quick tests - and it's looking quite nice so far...


2007/12/21 4:45:07
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David, Marcan, please could you install it here in the community site? or put it active in the theme box?

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2007/12/21 4:58:30
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I think Marcan will be able to for you.


2007/12/21 8:44:41
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Hi,

Ok the theme css100_morpho has been renamed for "impresstheme" in the trunk. This will be the default theme our CMS will ship with.

I have uploaded this theme here and you can change it in the theme block on the left column.

We need to improve this theme a little bit :

1- There is always a bug blank on the center column : http://smartfactory.ca/imgA_2007-12-21_06.gif

2- The look and feel is much too close to the XOOPS ugly default theme. I'm sure with a few tiny change in the CSS, An or anyone of our great designers could give it an awesome twist !

3- The logo needs to be changed for the official one. I think it will be this one as discussed in this thread

Anything else ?

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2007/12/21 8:53:37
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Oh Ana, you were talking about the impresscms theme, the theme for this very site I have uploaded here also. And you can see it in action in the themes block.

Suggestion : for communit.impresscms, It would be nice to have a (nearly) full width theme as it's easier for people using the forum. For all the other site, a fixed width 1024 theme is ok.

ANd good work by the way !

It's awesome !

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2007/12/21 11:28:14
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A very very nice theme.
Thank you


2007/12/21 11:54:54
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Snow, its first league.


2007/12/22 8:10:49
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The theme is great snow... i really like a lot!...

But! allways there are problems...
http://community.impresscms.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=618&forum=42

check there ... the right column is out of the main page...

and another issue... is that the names of the users in the forum... should be more visibles... but maybe that is only a configuration for the module...

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2007/12/22 8:47:23
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In the main menu, when the link breaks on 2 lines, the highlight/background only covers the top line

I do like the theme a lot, though!

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2007/12/22 9:12:30
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Thanks for the feedback.

Yes it does present problems. Making it look ok in multiple browsers isn't that easy and IE causes a lot of problems.

I'll be fixing the problems during the following days. ( I won't go on vacation).

So it would help me that I get reported as many bugs possible like the right column being misplaced in IE, some links not visible in the forum.

When a bug is reported please tell also the browser and browser version the bug is presented in.

About making it flexible width there's some part of the layout that would have to be redone for this, mostly because of the shadow effects on the sides of the page and because the header main image on top has rounded corners. I will try to make a flexible version without adding more tables but that will take me more time, past the due release date. (also my availability won't be very much during january because I'm moving house, so if someone else can do it quicker, I can send the photoshop of the theme).

Personally I don't like 100% that much. Most people have bigger screens now, and having all the content spread all over isn't nice and it makes it hard to read extra long lines. I prefer compact where the page size is somewhat similar to a normal printed page.

If you look at large news sites like:
http://www.time.com/time/magazine
http://espn.go.com/
http://www.washingtontimes.com/
http://www.usatoday.com/

... they all manage a fixed width around 980 pixels. The clue I think is in managing block displays the right way. For example maybe the left or right column may not be needed at all or maybe just have both visible on the home page if needed but all the inner pages I think it would be better to display the left or right column but not both of them the same time.

An evaluation of the community.impresscms.org blocks is needed I think. For example user menu / user login is integrated into the theme at the top right (those blocks could be disabled). Main menu block is integrated to the theme as the submenu bar below the tabs ( it could be disabled too). Local support sites and community sites blocks, I have proposed to place hardcoded inside the theme at the footer (like all those web 2 kind of sites that have a bunch of links at the bottom), so these blocks could be disabled too. Bookmarks is also integrated into the theme in the footer part, this block could be disabled too; if this is approved to stay I'd like James to revise the code for this part cause he knows more about these social features.

I think all blocks could go either all in the left or all in the right, cause splitting them into left and right columns occupies more than the necessary space.

Also I think I read something about fixed width not going according to accesibility standard (not sure if it was here or at the sourceforge xoops forum where they are talking about a theme contest). I'm not fully informed about accesibility but I don't think this is true. If it weren't accessible those big news sites I just showed wouldn't use it and that's what stylesheets are for. There's stylesheets for web display, stylesheet for printing, for handheld...

Well those are the reasons I think impresscms can have a fixed width theme.

For now I'll go bug hunting with the current theme to leave it finalized.

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2007/12/22 9:58:42
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the index.php of community has a strange display in blocks, and I think it's because of the block positioning in the admin side.

In the theme it's configured like this:

<{assign var=theme_top_order value=lrc}>
<{assign var=theme_bottom_order value=lcr}>


Top blocks: left and right on top of center block
Bottom blocks: left - center -right in 3 columns side by side.

How is the current block positioning of the center blocks configured in the homepage in the admin side so I am double sure it's not a theme problem?

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2007/12/22 11:32:46
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the link text in the forum post table headers is difficult to read

http://community.impresscms.org/modules/newbb/viewpost.php?since=100

th
div class="comTitle"
div class='comUserName'

a {
color:#779C12;
font-weight:normal;
text-decoration:underline;
}

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2007/12/23 0:58:09
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Snow, very interesting ideas in #73
IMO we shold leave you free hand in this area.
Could you prepare any preview/screeshot of site after your changes?


2007/12/23 3:49:56
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Snow - can I confirm....?

Originally your lovely designs where in different colours and top images for the main subsites (at the moment the first will be www, community and addons)

Are you still going for this plan?

I just need to know so we can carry on with working on the addons templates etc?


2007/12/23 8:46:57
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Snow, very interesting ideas in #73
IMO we shold leave you free hand in this area.
Could you prepare any preview/screeshot of site after your changes?



A screenshot of what do you need? The theme is available for download for testing in a zip in a post in this forum. I was mainly talking about block positioning which I think it's the site admin that does this. The theme is already configured so the center blocks display as the screenshot preview posted before.

Quote:

Snow - can I confirm....?
Originally your lovely designs where in different colours and top images for the main subsites (at the moment the first will be www, community and addons)
Are you still going for this plan?
I just need to know so we can carry on with working on the addons templates etc?



First I need to leave this theme finished and take away the bugs. Also it was asked to be flexible width. I can't do the other versions until this one is ok. Also for the other versions I can work based on final decisions, like I can't make a blue version and then a week later ask to change to another tone of blue. I can do this once this theme is finished and I get a final yes and approved what variations the theme will have, if like the screenshot previews or something different.

About having flexible width option, it ocurred to me something like a stylesheet switcher could be used with 2 little icons on the top corner, to switch between fluid or fixed width according to user liking, but like I mentioned before, this can take me some time as main parts of the theme structure would need to be changed for this.

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2007/12/23 9:11:23
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Quote:


A screenshot of what do you need?


This:
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An evaluation of the community.impresscms.org blocks is needed I think. For example user menu / user login is integrated into the theme at the top right (those blocks could be disabled). Main menu block is integrated to the theme as the submenu bar below the tabs ( it could be disabled too). Local support sites and community sites blocks, I have proposed to place hardcoded inside the theme at the footer (like all those web 2 kind of sites that have a bunch of links at the bottom), so these blocks could be disabled too. Bookmarks is also integrated into the theme in the footer part, this block could be disabled too; if this is approved to stay I'd like James to revise the code for this part cause he knows more about these social features.



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Quote:

About having flexible width option, it ocurred to me something like a stylesheet switcher could be used with 2 little icons on the top corner, to switch between fluid or fixed width according to user liking, but like I mentioned before, this can take me some time as main parts of the theme structure would need to be changed for this.



This sounds like a great idea -when you have chance.

Obviously not for the moment... but for later on...

I also agree with Kurak - we've so little time left to get this done, and you are very busy - so I think we should give you as much freedom as possible for this

Basically we're largely happy with it - fixed width is fine for the moment.... (variable later on as you suggested). I think people are mostly happy with the logo now ... and again - we can always adjust this later if needed.

At the moment I'm ripping my hair out with a fresh install of MediaWiki 1.11 on wiki.impress - and finding a suitable temporary theme .... so I'm leaving the theme side to those who know it better then me


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